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<font size=3>There must be an NPRM I missed. What's the date and number.
I'm scanning what I have saved on my work computer and haven't found it
yet.<br><br>
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At 12:23 5/13/2009, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Tom, <br>
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After looking at the information I found this.<br>
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3. Model Aircraft Not Operated in Accordance with <br>
Accepted Set of Standards ! <br>
3.1 Applicability ! <br>
The following general requirements and limitations apply to Model
Aircraft which are not <br>
operated in accordance with an FAA accepted set of standards, but are
operated by hobbyists <br>
for the sole purpose of sport, recreation, and/or competition.......
<br>
*************** <br><br>
Above that section is the portion that referrs to the AMA, such as: <br>
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2. Model Aircraft Operated in Accordance with <br>
FAA Accepted Standards <br>
2.1 Applicability <br>
Model Aircraft operations that are conducted in accordance with an FAA
accepted set of <br>
standards established and administered by a community based association
as discussed in <br>
Section 2.2, shall otherwise be exempt from the requirements of any
Special Federal <br>
Airworthiness Regulation (SFAR) that results from this recommendation as
long as they are <br>
operated by: <br>
• Hobbyist for thee sole purpose of sport, recreation and/or competition
under the <br>
conditions of such an FAA accepted program <br>
• Manufacturers which are flight testing aircraft inteended to be
operated for the sole <br>
purpose of sport, recreation, and/or competition and they are tested at
an approved <br>
field as defined by and in accordance with an FAA accepted program with
the <br>
approval of the community-based association responsible for the location
<br>
•˘ Educational institutions and/or students for the sole purpose of
education or research <br>
and they are operated at an approved field as defined by and in
accordance with an <br>
FAA accepted program with the approval of the community-based association
<br>
responsible for the location <br>
• Manufacturers which are flight testing aircraft intended to be operated
for other than <br>
sport, recreation, and/or competition and they are tested at an approved
field as <br>
defined by and in accordance with an FAA accepted program with the
approval of the <br>
community-based association responsible for the location <br>
RATIONALE: Reflects FAAÂ’s concept of regulating model aviation by <br>
exempting Model Aircraft from regulation. Under this approach, modelers
<br>
participating within an aeromodeling structure/organization such as the
<br>
Academy of Model Aeronautics (AMA) may operate their Model Aircraft <br>
in accordance with an accepted set of standards and operating <br>
procedures. Based on a more rigorous attention to safety, risk
assessment, <br>
and risk mitigation, the accepted standards may provide greater latitude
<br>
in the Model Aircraft operations. Modelers not participating in the <br>
additional safety programming established in an accepted set of standards
<br>
shall comply with the requirements of Section 3. <br>
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Of course, this is my first look at this NPRM, if it is a notice at all.
From knowledge of how the FAA writes things, it always says you canNOT do
anything unles, "A,B,C.. etc". So in my very quick initial look
at this, it may appear that they are saying unless you operate under the
guise and rules of the AMA, you may not fly turbines. There are some
other little bits of language there that reek of massive regulation and
red tape and unsustainable compliance that may threaten all civil model
airplane activity. Don't be scared for turbines. No. Be scared for model
aviation! We do not want any of this. We've seen before that rules
generated, from people with ZERO experience in the area they try to
regulate, lead to nothing but disfunctionality. <br><br>
I'd love to think the AMA is all over this. It seems they are in some
ways, with their name plastered all over this. But I'm certainly
<br><br>
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> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:24:38 -0800<br>
> From: president@alaskarc.org<br>
> To: alaskarc@lists.alaskarc.org<br>
> Subject: Re: [AlaskaRC] FAA looking at possibly regulating model
aircraft<br>
> <br>
> On Wed, 13 May 2009 10:02:07 -0800<br>
> Marty Hall <mjhall@alaskarcs.com> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > The last time this came up it was because of a model scaring a
flight <br>
> > crew of a 727 going into JFK. The FAA at that time told the AMA
they <br>
> > had the power to regulate RC but chose not to at that time
because of <br>
> > the problems associated in attempting to, but if "we"
didn't clean up <br>
> > our act, they would. That's the root of certain AMA safety
rules <br>
> > concerning flying near airports, etc. In those days there was
no <br>
> > where near the number of UAV's flying as there is today, and
the <br>
> > FAA's problem today has changed. It would be difficult for them
(the <br>
> > FAA) to tell one group (the military) flying an "RC"
of one type with <br>
> > a 3 foot wing span that there was strict rules to comply with,
and <br>
> > tell the other group (us) with a like size "RC"
there's no <br>
> > regulation. We DO need to watch this.<br>
> <br>
> >From what I've read, you're exactly right Marty. The increase
in<br>
> military UAV use is the catalyst here. These UAVs have been
operated<br>
> successfully in theatre for years now and the military would like
to<br>
> bring some of their capabilities into the US airspace system.
The<br>
> challenge is getting the UAV operators and the FAA to mesh -
and<br>
> unfortunately the models we fly are bing caught up in the
dragnet.<br>
> <br>
> Here's some good background info:<br>
> <br>
>
<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/16/ntsb.unmanned.vehicles/index.html" eudora="autourl">
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/16/ntsb.unmanned.vehicles/index.html</a><br>
> <br>
>
<a href="http://www.faa.gov/news/fact_sheets/news_story.cfm?newsId=6287" eudora="autourl">
http://www.faa.gov/news/fact_sheets/news_story.cfm?newsId=6287</a><br>
> <br>
> -- <br>
> Tom<br>
> <br>
>
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