<html>Total agreement, Doug...at least until it's otherwise proven or some other point of relevance comes to fore.<br><div><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana"></font> </div>
<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><font size="2" face="Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Douglas Leamon [mailto:yukonav8r@gmail.com]<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 17, 2011 09:04 AM<br><b>To:</b> ''ARCS mailing list''<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AlaskaRC] Crash at Reno Air Races<br><br></font><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><table id="201179" link="blue" vlink="purple" border="0" lang="EN-US" height="400" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" width="100%"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">This is just a guess….if the trim tab failed and set up a sever flutter, the resulting structural loads could created other failures in rapid succession, which may have included a failure or inadvertent release of the tail wheel uplock mechanism. Regardless the entire event happened in a matter of seconds. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Do you remember the loss of the aileron counter weight on the DeHavilland Beaver out of Talkeetna? The flutter event only lasted a few seconds before the pilot got the aircraft under control. The damage was so severe, the aircraft was considered a hull loss after it was inspected. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Doug Leamon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma" ,"sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma" ,"sans-serif""> alaskarc-bounces@lists.alaskarc.org [mailto:alaskarc-bounces@lists.alaskarc.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>bob@jetmodeler.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 17, 2011 8:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> ARCS mailing list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AlaskaRC] Crash at Reno Air Races<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I don't recall if it's a servo tab or a trim tab...or both.<br><br>Another photo shows the tail wheel extended just before the crash. The tail wheel was retracted during the race (I saw this in another video), which could mean a number of things...but it is definitely not normal.<br><br>Here's the photo.<br>http://i.imgur.com/QuAnm.jpg<br>.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 3.0pt;margin-left:3.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma" ,"sans-serif"">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Marty Hall [mailto:mjhall@alaskarcs.com]<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 17, 2011 08:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'ARCS mailing list'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AlaskaRC] Crash at Reno Air Races</span><o:p></o:p></p><table class="MsoNormalTable" style="width: 100%; background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;" id="201179" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="3" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td style="width:100.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" valign="top" width="100%"><div><p class="MsoNormal">I don't remember... Is that a flying tab or a trim tab ? If it's a flying tab your probably. If you could get control back, you'd need a lot more altitude than he had.<br><br>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Sep 16, 2011, at 22:56, <a href="mailto:bob@jetmodeler.com" mce_href="mailto:bob@jetmodeler.com" target="_blank">bob@jetmodeler.com</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">This is a close up of the tail of the P-51 as it approached the high end of its arc during the crash sequence.<br><br><a href="http://media.graytvinc.com/images/plane+enlarged.jpg" mce_href="http://media.graytvinc.com/images/plane+enlarged.jpg" target="_blank">http://media.graytvinc.com/images/plane+enlarged.jpg</a><br><br>At the speed he was traveling, there is no way that the pilot could overcome the adverse elevator forces involved with the loss of the trim tab.<o:p></o:p></p><table class="MsoNormalTable" style="width: 100%;" id="201179" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="3" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td style="width:100.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" valign="top" width="100%"></td></tr></tbody></table></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><images.jpeg><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>AlaskaRC mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AlaskaRC@lists.alaskarc.org" mce_href="mailto:AlaskaRC@lists.alaskarc.org" target="_blank">AlaskaRC@lists.alaskarc.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.alaskarc.org/mailman/listinfo/alaskarc" mce_href="http://lists.alaskarc.org/mailman/listinfo/alaskarc" target="_blank">http://lists.alaskarc.org/mailman/listinfo/alaskarc</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></div></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote></html>