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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ed,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’d love to build a Frank Zaic Thermic 50X or Thermic 72, but gear would ruin the lines! And they appear to date from 1945. Lots of nice designs to choose from, regardless.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Doug<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Mister Ed [mailto:mr.ed@alaska.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 09, 2014 7:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> ARCS mailing list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AlaskaRC] SOS<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Doug,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>I believe the Hand Launch and towline gliders still have to be from designs of the period, and according to the SOS rules, you must add landing gear. <br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br>----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>From:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>"ARCS mailing list" <<a href="mailto:alaskarc@lists.alaskarc.org">alaskarc@lists.alaskarc.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>To:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>"ARCS mailing list" <<a href="mailto:alaskarc@lists.alaskarc.org">alaskarc@lists.alaskarc.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Cc:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Sent:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Thu, 09 Jan 2014 07:42:26 -0900<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Subject:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Re: [AlaskaRC] SOS<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This is what I see for models:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>3E. Spirit of SAM (Electric Powered - Rubber Model Designs):-<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>A. Model Requirements:-<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>1. Any electric powered replica of a pre-1943 rubber model as recognized in the 'SAM Approved Designs List ~ Rubber Models, HL Glider and Towline Glider' may be flown in this event. <br>2. Unless stated otherwise, the model shall conform to current SAM R/C Old Timer Rules.<br>3. Scaling is permitted. There are no wing loading or weight requirements.<br>4. All models shall have landing gear. Landing gear shall be added to models designed without landing gear. A two-wheel gear may replace a one-wheel gear. Dropping gear is not permitted.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Towline glider? Scaling is permitted? Hmm. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>On another note, you pretty much have to go straight to the site at <a href="http://www.antiquemodeler.org/">http://www.antiquemodeler.org/</a> and navigate from there A crusty old site for a crusty old sport ;)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Doug</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Mister Ed [<a href="mailto:mr.ed@alaska.com">mailto:mr.ed@alaska.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 08, 2014 9:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:smithjj@alaska.net">smithjj@alaska.net</a> 'ARCS mailing list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AlaskaRC] SOS</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Very good email Doc. I suggest we finalize the rules for 2014 at the competition meeting. Since we are the Alaska chapter of SAM we could do lipos as and hand launching as you suggest. Now I have to build some SAM planes! Whoo-hoo!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br>----- Original Message -----</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:#E4E4E4'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:smithjj@alaska.net">smithjj@alaska.net</a> "ARCS mailing list" <<a href="mailto:alaskarc@lists.alaskarc.org">alaskarc@lists.alaskarc.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>"ARCS mailing list" <<a href="mailto:alaskarc@lists.alaskarc.org">alaskarc@lists.alaskarc.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Cc:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Wed, 8 Jan 2014 21:42:18 -0900 (AKST)</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Re: [AlaskaRC] SOS<br><br><br>>Mr. Ed.,<br>I am sorry that I gave the wrong info on the props. for SOS. The props can fold<br>according to your info. The flight pack is Ni-Cad with the weight limit. The<br>350 ma cell has been generally accepted. I personally prefer Lipos, but the<br>rules at presently set. We can use any battery that we want in our contests. We<br>can also hand launch our models.<br>I hope to have mine flown and trimmed out so it can be flown as a demonstration<br>at our contest. Competition will be welcome I am trying to build another one<br>before the contests.<br>Doc<br><br><br>><br>> At last night's club meeting, Doc presented a short discussion on the<br>> Spirit of Sam (SOS).<br>><br>> I found the following information<br>><br>> <a href="http://www.antiquemodeler.org/sam_new/rulebooks/2010_rule_book/sam_2010_rules_elec.html">http://www.antiquemodeler.org/sam_new/rulebooks/2010_rule_book/sam_2010_rules_elec.html</a><br>> [1]<br>><br>> Spirit of SAM (Electric Powered - Rubber Model Designs):-<br>><br>> A. Model Requirements:-<br>><br>> 1. Any electric powered replica of a pre-1943 rubber model as<br>> recognized in the 'SAM Approved Designs List ~ Rubber Models, HL<br>> Glider and Towline Glider' may be flown in this event.<br>> Â 2. Unless stated otherwise, the model shall conform to current SAM<br>> R/C Old Timer Rules.<br>> Â 3. Scaling is permitted. There are no wing loading or weight<br>> requirements.<br>> Â 4 All models shall have landing gear. Landing gear shall be added<br>> to models designed without landing gear. A two-wheel gear may replace<br>> a one-wheel gear. Dropping gear is not permitted.<br>> Â <br>><br>> B. Batteries:-<br>><br>> 1. NiCad batteries only, not to exceed 45 grams (1.6 oz) as removed<br>> for weighing. The battery pack must be removable for weighing by the<br>> CD.<br>><br>> C. Motors:-<br>><br>> Â <br>><br>> Â 1. Any electric motor(s) may be used.<br>> Â 2. The motor(s) may drive the propeller(s) by any mechanical means.<br>> Â 3. Propellers may fold.<br>> Â <br>><br>> D. Power Control:-<br>><br>> Â <br>><br>> Â 1. Power flow from the batteries to motor(s) may be controlled by<br>> any means<br>> Â 2. Power shut off by radio command must be demonstrated to the<br>> timer.<br>> Â <br>><br>> E General Flight Rules:-<br>><br>> Â <br>><br>> 1. Models must comply with all R/C LER rules, such as ROG, landing on<br>> field, etc. unless otherwise noted.<br>> Â 2. Flight time starts when the motor is switched on and the model is<br>> released for flight. Flight time ends when the model touches the<br>> ground or some object on the ground.<br>><br>> F. Flight Rules:-<br>> Â <br>><br>> Â 1. There are no maximum motor run times. The motor may be started,<br>> controlled and stopped one or more times at the pilot's discretion.<br>> Â 2. Model must ROG (Rise Off Ground) unassisted.<br>> Â 3. No maximum flight time<br>> Â 4. Three flights are allowed. Two flights are required to achieve a<br>> score. The SECOND longest flight counts.<br>><br>><br>> Links:<br>> ------<br>> [1]<br>> <a href="http://www.antiquemodeler.org/sam_new/rulebooks/2010_rule_book/sam_2010_rules_elec.html">http://www.antiquemodeler.org/sam_new/rulebooks/2010_rule_book/sam_2010_rules_elec.html</a><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> AlaskaRC mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:AlaskaRC@lists.alaskarc.org">AlaskaRC@lists.alaskarc.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.alaskarc.org/mailman/listinfo/alaskarc">http://lists.alaskarc.org/mailman/listinfo/alaskarc</a><br>><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>AlaskaRC mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AlaskaRC@lists.alaskarc.org">AlaskaRC@lists.alaskarc.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.alaskarc.org/mailman/listinfo/alaskarc">http://lists.alaskarc.org/mailman/listinfo/alaskarc</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></body></html>