[AlaskaRC] FAA looking at possibly regulating model aircraft

Wed May 13 10:38:43 AKDT 2009

If the FAA regulates ALL military and industrial 
UAV's, maybe we can't... There's some really small UAV's being developed.

At 10:26 5/13/2009, you wrote:
>We hope we can still fly are park flyers.
>
>
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>Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:02:07 -0800
>To: alaskarc at lists.alaskarc.org
>From: mjhall at alaskarcs.com
>Subject: Re: [AlaskaRC] FAA looking at possibly regulating model aircraft
>
>The last time this came up it was because of a 
>model scaring a flight crew of a 727 going into 
>JFK. The FAA at that time told the AMA they had 
>the power to regulate RC but chose not to at 
>that time because of the problems associated in 
>attempting to, but if "we" didn't clean up our 
>act, they would. That's the root of certain AMA 
>safety rules concerning flying near airports, 
>etc. In those days there was no where near the 
>number of UAV's flying as there is today, and 
>the FAA's problem today has changed. It would be 
>difficult for them (the FAA) to tell one group 
>(the military) flying an "RC" of one type with a 
>3 foot wing span that there was strict rules to 
>comply with, and tell the other group (us) with 
>a like size "RC" there's no regulation. We DO need to watch this.
>
>
>At 09:41 5/13/2009, you wrote:
>
>Something to be aware of - it's been in the works for a while, but this
>is a good explanation from Tony about where the AMA is in the process
>and what we as modelers should be aware of and looking for.
>
>For those who might be unfamiliar, as UAV flights are increasing over
>the US, the FAA is looking for a way to more closely regulate them.
>
>Begin forwarded message:
>
>Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:43:25 -0400
>From: "Tony" <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
>To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fw: Rules Coming?
>
>
>There is a lot that everyone will need to learn about this issue.  The
>ARC
>was made up of about 25 industry (read that as commercial) people from
>full-scale to manufacturers of UAS.  We (AMA) had ONE seat on this
>committee.  The AMA pushed for keeping everything just as it is right
>now,
>accentually making model aircraft exempt from any rules.
>
>
>
>The problem is that the commercial guys say, "hey, they can fly (meaning
>AMA) without restrictions, why can't we?"  This is the fight that AMA
>has
>been dealing with for a year now.
>
>
>
>The original concept of this group was to come to consensus about
>issues.
>Well, that didn't work, so basically we were outvoted by the rest of the
>group.  However, any member of the ARC could write an explanation as to
>why
>they were against such rules, giving reasons so that the FAA could
>consider
>this when they review these proposals.  That is what we have done.  Many
>manufacturers want to limit us in many ways, and one of those is to
>limit
>aircraft to 100MPH, 400 ft altitude and no turbines!  Obviously, AMA is
>against anything that would effect what modelers are doing now.
>
>
>
>Now, it is up to the FAA to look at these proposed rules and either
>
>A.  Pass them as written
>
>B.  Modify them
>
>C.  Trash it all and start over
>
>
>
>Once the FAA gets into it, they will give an NPRM (notice of Proposed
>Rule
>Making) and will receive comments from any interested parties (THAT BE
>US!)
>at that time.
>
>
>
>You can be sure that AMA is on top of this and we have a plan in place
>to
>flood the FAA with letters and e-mails should they propose something
>against
>our interests!  My best suggestion to everyone is to visit the AMA
>website
>for updated info often and read MODEL AVIATION when it comes to your
>door.
>
>
>
>
>
>Tony Stillman, President
>
>Radio South, Inc.
>
>139 Altama Connector, Box 322
>
>Brunswick, GA  31525
>
>1-800-962-7802
>
><http://www.radiosouthrc.com/>www.radiosouthrc.com
>
>   _____
>
>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>[ mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of John
>Konneker
>Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:59 AM
>To: jpavlick at idseng.com; Discussion List
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fw: Rules Coming?
>
>
>
>Hey John,
>Mike Dorna had sent some of us a link to the proposal earlier this week
>and
>Don Mathewson talks about the process
>that generated it in his "President's Perspective" column in the current
>June issue of MA, page 5.
> >From John's column it sounds like when the NPRM comes out and public
> >comment
>is invited the AMA will probably
>be asking members to let their feelings be known.
>Interesting stuff.
>JLK
>
>
>   _____
>
>Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 06:00:40 -0700
>From: jpavlick at idseng.com
>To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Fw: Rules Coming?
>
>
>Guys,
>
>  Bob sent this link to me and thought everyone would be interested. Many
>of
>you have probably seen this already but in case you haven't, take a
>look...
>
>
>
>John Pavlick
>
>--- On Wed, 5/13/09, Bob Pastorello <rcaerobob at cox.net> wrote:
>
>From: Bob Pastorello <rcaerobob at cox.net>
>Subject: Rules Coming?
>To: "John Pavlick" <idsmail at sbcglobal.net>
>Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 11:51 AM
>
>Hello, John.  Long time no hear, hope you're doing well in pattern land.
>
>I recently found this new thread on RCU dealing with a rule-making
>proposal
>from the FAA.  May be of interest to pattern people....
>
><http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=8760851>http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=8760851
>
>
>Bob Pastorello
><http://www.rcaerobats.net/>www.rcaerobats.net < http://www.rcaerobats.net/>
>rcaerobob at cox.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--
>Tom
>
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